Kahler vs OFR

[Bucky Gone AWOL]

Whats the difference?

[ozzuk1]

Theres a great youtube vid that's been teh best and fairest comparison without floyd sucks or kahler sucks nonesense....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy1eiMZ5nUk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K350onEl1o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U41FjfnWLSQ&feature=related

just watch the video's and he goes through all the points that are importent when playing...

[Gfunk]

Kahlers diddle duck dongs.







;)

[Bucky Gone AWOL]

Hey GFunk are diddle duck dongs a good thing? Is that what you are saying?

Cheers.

[ZephMan13]

Kahlers are better of course.

[wesjoh225]

Kahlers are better of course.um not by a longshot budd just cuase slayer uses them

[Gfunk]

Is that what you are saying?



I prefer Floyds.



Kahlers have not stayed in tune (watch the vids ozz posted), the way I have used them.



I recommend playing both (if possible), before making a decision.





If you can not, go OFR.





:)

[ESPManiac]

Its odd, i have had the a similar experience to Gfunky...but the other way around.

Kahler stay in tune so well! SO well! I abuse the shit out of it, to the point wher it no-longer becomes music abuse...and it just pops right back in place. With a floyd....ha, no chance. I have had/set up several OFRs, cant stand the bloody bastards!

[ZephMan13]

um not by a longshot budd just cuase slayer uses them

Don't be a faggot noob.

[Bucky Gone AWOL]

I watched thosed YOUTUBE vids and when he did string bends on the Kahler it went out of tune......

BUT....the KAHLER HYBRID looks cool as you can use a srew to make it like a fixed bridge. This is gunna sound gay/noob...but I have no intention of using a whammy bar.............I just want a locking nut as I think it may keep the guitar in tune for longer..........................

[Gfunk]

I have no intention of using a whammy bar.............I just want a locking nut as I think it may keep the guitar in tune for longer..........................






:x

[Strange]

It depends on what you're using them for.

I personally prefer Kahlers to Floyds for the simple fact that the saddle height is fixed, and you can play as heavily as you want without inadvertantly pitching sharp. Floyds hold their tuning better especially druing massive strings to the pickups divebomb stuff. Floyds also deliver better tone and sustain since it is attached by a fulcrum to the body as opposed to a relatively massive metal plate.

That said, if you have no intention of using the whammy bar, then just get a guitar with a fixed bridge and some Sperzels. I stopped using the bar on my Kahler some time ago but still liked having the locking nut and fine tuners. Thing is, you sacrifice a lot of tone and sustain. Now I've got the TonePros and the Sperzel locking tuners and I couldn't be happier.

[BoogieII]

I just want a locking nut as I think it may keep the guitar in tune for longer..........................

hello. *waves*


you're an idiot.

[Bucky Gone AWOL]

Oh Boogie......don't be so quick to judge people...................for all you know I may be a god damm professor of physics.....I'm not though:rollin:rollin

[ZephMan13]

Floyds also deliver better tone and sustain since it is attached by a fulcrum to the body as opposed to a relatively massive metal plate

You can get a Kahler Hybrid that attaches the same way as a OFR.

[ozzuk1]

They don't make the spider or steeler anymore only the cam trems as far as I know...

I've played oen or two gutiars with ofr's and my rans have shcallers, I do big bends and they stay in tune, I havent tried a kahler yet but when I do I will check to see how it compares...

Still theres no denying when that kahler on that video was going through normal string bends it went out of tune yet diving didnt affect it...

I Can see design wise why this would happen on kahler the string rollers arent good for sideways movement....