Line 6 amps

[NevermoreMan90]

People keep saying how the spider 3 heads will die if you crank the head, or if you have both the channel AND master volume over 5. Anyone know anything about this?

[Riff Master Mike]

Who are these people?

[NevermoreMan90]

"These people'' are guys I was talking to at Guitar Center. There is also a bunch of reviews pretaining to the spider 3 heads dieing out on musicians friend.

[Rex Rocker]

not true...

the spider I in my experience does sound kinda shitty when cranked above 5, but the II, again, in my experience, had more headroom...

Spiders are really reliable amps, tho... I tell ya, when I was still in a band, my guitarrist was rocking his Spider I with no problems whatsoever... that's like a 5 year old amp...

[Mr Pigwalk]

My Spider 1 sounded better when it was cranked to shit and the speaker would start to break up.

My Spider 2 started overheating before I sold it, probably shitty power.

My Vetta. Fuck man, I've never had it past 1pm and it's just ridiculous loud.

[slythdementor]

Spiders were never meant to go loud lol, bedroom amps.

[Mr Pigwalk]

If it's a half stack, it's designed to go on a stage. And I've seen many a Spider half stack, and even a few combo's at shows. It's all about EQ.

[Mister Guitar Himself]

the spider 3 heads will die if you crank the head, or if you have both the channel AND master volume over 5.

WTF :S? total bullshit!!!

[Metlupass2]

Line 6 makes horrible pieces of shit!!! Stay away!!!





































Goes and plays my Vetta II......

[Riff Master Mike]

All this is speculation. If it was that simple that all you had to do is turn up the master and channel volume past 5 to blow the thing up, they would have recalled them by now. Thats common sense to me. It's getting dirty power that is usually the problem with spiders and other software driven amps. Buy a GOOD power conditioner, or better yet a regulator and these problems stop most of the time.

People who work at guitar center don't have to know anything about amps or guitars, they just have to know how to sell. Most of them are hardly experts. They would rather hire a person that worked at Best Buy than to hire a working musician. Besides the fact that if guitar center knew this info and still sold such products, that would be bad business practices and should be reported to the better business bureau.:confused:

[thrill74]

Line 6 makes horrible pieces of shit!!! Stay away!!!

Goes and plays my Vetta II......

+5 on that!

[NevermoreMan90]

It wasn't the people that worked there. It was people that were there, and had experience with the amps. I've lost interest in the spider 3 now anyways.

[Metlupass2]

Those people are idiots....you should not have listened to them.

[shakeESP]

That is bullshit to the EXTREME! And if I were buying from Line 6 I'd save for an HD147 half stack or Vetta II, I can't stand the Spiders.

-Chris

[KH Guitar Freak]

:rollin

[Ramses1134]

this is the bullshit of all bullshits.

everyone knows spider amps fall apart as soon as you put on the insane channel. dam n00bs. 8o 8o

[Normal Ibanez Person]

Nevermore FTW

[NevermoreMan90]

Now I know that crock of shit about them blowing is not true. Thanks guys!

[ESPVIPERCAMO]

my pops has the 75w and he gigs with the damn thing, and i think he only turns it ta 4 for his little festival outside gigs

total bullshit on GC

[Phusion]

I've also read reviews on other websites pretaining to this same problem... Wouldn't know personally I play marshall!!

[Dark Matter]

I've also read reviews on other websites pretaining to this same problem... Wouldn't know personally I play marshall!!

Ive owned a spiderII HD150 halfstack. Id crank the shit out of it though. My only gripe is that whenever I put it over 5 it didnt seem to get any louder. Ive heard that if you run the extra boost/stomp that the heads would overeat or blow but I hadnt had any problems with it.

I saved up and upgraded to an HD147 halfstack and love it, never had a problem with it:evil

[DarkKnight369]

The people working at guitar center are dumb.

Most people shopping at guitar center are dumb.

Half the people who write those reviews are dumb.



The spider series does not blow up. First of all, the only way I have heard of the Spiders blowing up is when the cab is not connected to the head in stereo. If you don't read the manual, or are some jack ass at guitar center you wouldn't realize this. The cab has to be run in stereo, or the head will blow up. Yes, I have seen it happen and that is the reason why.

Digital amps work differently than analog or tube amps. You make a setting, you save it as a digital preset, when you recall that preset, the knobs are disregarded. Due to the fletcher-munson sound curve, we perceive frequencies differenly at different decibel levels. If you set a patch up at a low volume, then crank the master up, its going to sound like shit. You have to set your digital presets up at the max volume you plan on playing them at. If not, you will have some crap tone.


The other guitarist in my band has a Spider 2 and has gone plenty loud. Not sure what his channel volume is set at, but his master is at 4 or 5. He can be heard just fine in any gig situation.

[DarkKnight369]

And if I were buying from Line 6 I'd save for an HD147 half stack or Vetta II

saved up and upgraded to an HD147 halfstack and love it, never had a problem with it

As an HD147 owner and a Line 6 enthusiast I would have to agree. Mr. Majik, aKa Riff Master Mike always preaches this...The spiders are entry level bedroom player amps. You can only expect so much out of them. If you want a pro amp for gigging, its wise to look higher up the Line 6 product chain. Don't get me wrongs, the spiders can handle a live setting, but they don't hold a candle to the other amp heads Line 6 makes.

[NevermoreMan90]

^ Thanks bro. I appriciate your input very much! You've answered my question perfecty.

[chrisolson]

I've also read reviews on other websites pretaining to this same problem... Wouldn't know personally I play marshall!!

...and THERE'S an amp that NEVER has any problems...:rollin

I've been using Line 6 since 1998 and haven't had ANY problems. Don't worry about the Spider III - it's a good amp on a budget. If you EQ it right, it sounds just as good as a Flextone. Not into Vetta territory though.

[ESPKH4]

personaly i dont like Line 6 amps, they sound decent for the price range (Spider series) but i like to be able to switch on a fly, because they are digital there is a bit of delay in it, my buddies Spider II head also heated up and actually caught fire because of a bad power unit, i was going to buy one until that happened i then found hughes and kettner and damage control and ill never buy a Line 6, they sound good but there just not for me...and for critics they can go eat shit and die, you have to play the amp you can read the reviews but take it with a grain or two of salt play the amp or the guitar or effect board or pedal it has to rub you the right way if it doesnt all the "EXPERTS" in the world's reviews dont mean shit.

[V]

my spider 2 got cranked REAL high back when i gigged, and never had issues.

[ibanezaholic]

whever ever i here line 6 i automatically think CRAP because of the spider line of amps

[KH Guitar Freak]

Spider amps die when you call up the Fallout Boy preset for sure... 8o

[TheDevilHimself]

I seriously think tube amps are technology which will phase out completely. It might take 10 more years, but I'm pretty sure at the rate the modelling amps have progressed in the last couple of years the technology will take off even more.

My next amp will probably be a HD147 or something like that, unless I get a killer deal on some other amp.

[RandomHero]

Personally, I've NEVER had an issue with a Line 6 product. I still own my HD147 and Spider II 212. Honestly, I think they're the best amps available for the price. However, a good friend of mine has had to replace his Spider II head 4 times (every time under warranty). The amp would just go haywire. Channels switch themselves, amp would cut off at random...damn thing was possessed.
Meh, I still swear by their stuff though

[Riff Master Mike]

Never had an issue with mine except once when I was updating, but that was fixed in 15 minutes by just rebooting. Line 6's rule, as long as you go with their good stuff.

[chrisolson]

Personally, I've NEVER had an issue with a Line 6 product. I still own my HD147 and Spider II 212. Honestly, I think they're the best amps available for the price. However, a good friend of mine has had to replace his Spider II head 4 times (every time under warranty). The amp would just go haywire. Channels switch themselves, amp would cut off at random...damn thing was possessed.
Meh, I still swear by their stuff though

He shouldn't have plugged it into 220... ;)

[RandomHero]

He shouldn't have plugged it into 220... ;)

He didn't.
It would do it everywhere. Both of his apartments, my house, my practice space, EVERYWHERE. Although, he wasn't the easiest on his equipment either. I'd say if Line 6 makes something, it's definitely worth what they ask for it

[chrisolson]

It was a joke. Next time I'll be sure to point out sarcasm. :rolleyes:

[RandomHero]

I forgive you
Has there been anything about line 6 developing something like an HD147 Part II?