Question on Sperzels

[jaylaw90]

Ive got a ESP Eclipse-I CTM FT Full Thickness and its got Gotoh Magnum Lock tuners on it and its really pissing me off how hard it is to change strings so Im actually keen to change them to sperzels and just wondering if they would fit in or would there be holes after I put it in?


Thanks
Jay

[R11GJH]

I don't know about the magnums but when I changed my Gibson Explorer tuners for sperzels there is a visible hole left from the old tuners on the rear of the headstock.

[DUFF]

I'd personally stick with the gotoh magnum locks. I have them on my standard series viper, and they keep the guitar amazingly in tune. I personally find sperzels to be cheaply made. I had sperzels on 2 of my Gibson les pauls, which now have gotoh's. The first time I had them on my gibson, I thought I may have had a defective set. I switched to gotoh's and the tuning problems went away. I bought another les paul, I decided to give sperzels another chance, and was let down once again. Gotoh's are the way to go in my opinion. They just take a little time to get use to.

[Metal Mortician]

I'd personally stick with the gotoh magnum locks. I have them on my standard series viper, and they keep the guitar amazingly in tune. I personally find sperzels to be cheaply made. I had sperzels on 2 of my Gibson les pauls, which now have gotoh's. The first time I had them on my gibson, I thought I may have had a defective set. I switched to gotoh's and the tuning problems went away. I bought another les paul, I decided to give sperzels another chance, and was let down once again. Gotoh's are the way to go in my opinion. They just take a little time to get use to.

Though I was really suprised when I got the 2007 catalog and all of the standard series and LTD signature series were changed to the Gotohs. Just looked off to me, somehow. But hey, if they're made better and lock just the same, then I'm all for 'em.

[5150-Viper]

i think the schaller mini locking tuners are a direct replacement, im not positive though.. i dont like the gotoh or the sperzels. the tuning ratio on schaller and planet waves are much better then the sperzels, and the gotoh just look huge and make the head stock look weird on the guitar. id recommend looking into the schaller if your looking to replace. they have them at www.warmoth.com

[jaylaw90]

I'd personally stick with the gotoh magnum locks. I have them on my standard series viper, and they keep the guitar amazingly in tune. I personally find sperzels to be cheaply made. I had sperzels on 2 of my Gibson les pauls, which now have gotoh's. The first time I had them on my gibson, I thought I may have had a defective set. I switched to gotoh's and the tuning problems went away. I bought another les paul, I decided to give sperzels another chance, and was let down once again. Gotoh's are the way to go in my opinion. They just take a little time to get use to.

But when it comes to string changing, gotohs are really a big hassle to change them but sperzels are way easier.

[guitarsatbmusic]

But when it comes to string changing, gotohs are really a big hassle to change them but sperzels are way easier.
Hardly what I'd call "harder"? :eek: You'll appreciate them when they're not dropping shavings of strings in the back of your tuner down the line like a Sperzel does.

[R11GJH]

Personally all my guitars except my LP Custom I have changed the tuners to Sperzels. I find they are high quality, keep guitars in tune very well, easy to change strings. Plus all the ESP signiture models I have came with Sperzels as standard.

[Metfuk]

I yet have to install my Sperzels on the guitar that I'm building now, but I'm actually kinda shocked that they require such a thin headstock! It may not be thicker than 15 mm at max or the winding rod will be too low under the mounting bolt!

It is no problem now because I'm still building and I have yet to make the headstock, but damn, I hope it won't be too thin for the force it has to hold up to.

[R11GJH]

15mm is not thin. A Viper has a 14mm Headstock and EXP 15mm and a custom Les Paul has 13mm.

[Metfuk]

15mm is not thin. A Viper has a 14mm Headstock and EXP 15mm and a custom Les Paul has 13mm.

Yes, my Gibson Explorer has 15 mm.

You'll appreciate them when they're not dropping shavings of strings in the back of your tuner down the line like a Sperzel does.

What exactly do you mean with this comment? 8o

[JoeBender]

I have Sperzels on my customized Strat and I don't really feel they keep the strings in tune very well. And I even stretch the strings like 4 or 5 times after I change them, so that's not the problem. It could be the the fact that I use 11-50s tuned to E standard on a 25.5 inch scale guitar though. :p

[Metfuk]

I have Sperzels on my customized Strat and I don't really feel they keep the strings in tune very well. And I even stretch the strings like 4 or 5 times after I change them, so that's not the problem. It could be the the fact that I use 11-50s tuned to E standard on a 25.5 inch scale guitar though. :p

Or maybe there's something else wrong like a weak neck joint or low quality trem/bridge.

[JoeBender]

Or maybe there's something else wrong like a weak neck joint or low quality trem/bridge.

Could be... its just odd that immediately after I had the tuners replaced with Sperzels, the tuning stability was worse than with the stock SQUIER tuners!

[R11GJH]

I have only used Sperzels with Tune o matic bridges, I don't know how good they are with a Trem. I find once the stretch has gone from the string they stay in tune.