Which one of the two do u recommend?

[Mystievel]

Hey everyone...I've been browsing these forums for a while looking at posts about amps and such. Currently I use an ESP AX-50 with a Toneworks AX-1500 pedal board sound processor. I've also got a digitech DF-7 Distortion Factory and a digitech Metal Master. (I'll forget even saying which amp I use cus its a flippin acoustic amp...ok..its an AER 50) Anyway I think I'm stuck here trying to decide between these two amps...which one do you guys recommend for me (concidering the equipment I have...nd I'm thinkin about later gettin a esp EC-1000 blk) Most of the time I'll play stuff from In Flames, Opeth, etc

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Line-6-HD150-Guitar-Amp-Head-Spider-III-412-Speaker-Cabinet?sku=485062
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Randall-RX120DHS-120W-Half-Stack-Guitar-Amp-with-4x12-Cabinet?sku=481269

Any comments are highly appreciated THANKS!

[El Jefe]

well if it's going in your bedroom don't get a halfstack, if you need a halfstack find a used tube amp and cab.

but between the 2 i'd get the line 6 just for the modeling. but if you don't need all the modeling stuff get the randall

[Mystievel]

why not get a halfstack if its in a bedroom (i know nothinngggg about amps/halfstacks (w/e that is) cabinets, etc haha)

[El Jefe]

amps sound much better with thier volumes turned up. and half stacks are LOUD (usually) so if you can't crank it up i'll end up playing your half stack on 2-3 on the vol control and it just won't be optimum.
unless you need the volume do yourself a favor and get a smaller combo amp

[Mystievel]

so like if u were playing in a band then get a half stack cus they could play over the drums right?

so something like this would be more for the bedroom?

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Line-6-Spider-III-120-Modeling-Combo-Amplifier?sku=482271
I really appreciate ur help btw)

[El Jefe]

ya the combo it gonna be better forthe bedroom, but it'll still be plenty loud to play with a band (i know i have a line 6 flextone 3 xl) and if i needed to have a bigger setup i would just attach an extention cab to it.

[Dick Tater]

What is your price range?

[Mystievel]

mainly around 500-700 $
so really a combo would be best even with a band?
whats a good one then? haha :p

[MikeC]

500-700 $ id get a used tube amp.
im currently making payments on a Peavey Ultra Plus Head and Cab in great condition and im getting that for $450.
if your into the combo deal now then look at the peavey valve king. ive played them and there great tube amps for the money.

[Rex Rocker]

Personally, i'd rather get a Randall RG100G3 combo over that RX half-stack you posted there...

the Spider III half-stack may not be that bad of a choice tho... it's true that tube amps sound better as you make the power-amp work harder, but solid states (Randall and Line6) sound pretty much the same except at most levels except when cranked too much...

my personall recommendations for combos: Randall RG100SC G3, Randall RG200SC G3 or Line 6 Spider III 150...

[NevermoreMan90]

Line 6 all the fuckin way.

[Mystievel]

look...heres where I get confused...
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Randall-RX120DHS-120W-Half-Stack-Guitar-Amp-with-4x12-Cabinet?sku=481269
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Randall-Valve-Dynamic-G3-Series-RG200G3-200W-2x12-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=481143
Both the same price, first one a half stack and the other a combo (man im really lookin up on this stuff, wanna make the best choice i can without regretting it later)

and also this confuses me
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Randall-Valve-Dynamic-G3-Series-RG200G3-200W-2x12-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=481143
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Randall-RG100G3-G3-Series-Guitar-Combo-Amp-?sku=480336
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Randall-RG200DG3-G3-Series-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=480337
Whats the difference??!

Hmm....what about just getting a cabinet? Do those only amplify the sound? cus thats all i ned if i have a pedal board right? ><

[cobrahead1030]

if you're looking at something like that line 6 or randall, then a halfstack will be fine for playing at home...but a combo may be more practical

do you wanna join a band or plan on playing with other musicians at some point? if so then i'd go with the halfstack so you won't need something bigger later

i'll say this tho...if you're looking for the ultimate amp setup, i don't think you'll be happy with either of those; in which case you should get one of the cheaper line 6 spider combos and then save up for a nice halfstack

if you want a decent cheap halfstack, then one of those would probably be fine...i'd get the line 6 because they're decent, i've not played that particular randall to compare

[cobrahead1030]

those randall combos you posted last

one seems to be a 200 watt combo, one is a 100 watt combo, and the last one is a 200 watt combo with built in fx

[Mystievel]

hmm, ive done some more readin up nd i heard that half stacks were way too overrated (whatever that means) nd i guess i need something that is mainly for in my room, but can also play in the church (has to beat the drums nd fill the whole room which is basically a massive gym) ahh what to do ><


ok so personally, im tryin to end it here...which of these do all of you who read this think is the best one? (unless im totally missin the idea)

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Randall-Valve-Dynamic-G3-Series-RG200G3-200W-2x12-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=481143
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Line-6-Spider-III-150-Modeling-Combo-Amplifier?sku=482270
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Randall-RX120DHS-120W-Half-Stack-Guitar-Amp-with-4x12-Cabinet?sku=481269
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Line-6-HD150-Guitar-Amp-Head-Spider-III-412-Speaker-Cabinet?sku=485062

I just want something that sounds good nd doesnt give much feedback or fuzz

[MikeC]

Id have to say go with a Randall 150G3 head and find a used cab with Celestions in it. That should work for you IMO. You could jam with it in a massive gym and hear it over drums. Thats what i would do anyways.

If your more comfortable with a combo then try finding something about 100 watts at the least. Its hard to hear over drums depending on were your at.

Do you plan on playing with a band? maybe in the future or something?

I dont know. All your choices are great. the rest is all up to you. they both sound alot different then one another so your best bet is to go to a shop and just play everything in your price range. you'll eventually find something that you like, then buy it. It all comes down to personal prefferance.

[Mystievel]

alright, thx, gues ur right the next step would just be to go try stuff out in a guitar store

[Rex Rocker]

out of those links you posted, the first is an RX and the second is an RG... both are the same price even tho the RG is just a combo because the RG is overall a better amp... it has better speakers, better pre-amp and better power-amp

if you do get a G3 Randall combo, i suggest you stay away from the one with built-in effects... they are OK... but they kinda suck the tone away from the amp...

[MikeC]

they kinda suck the tone away from the amp...

+1 ;)

[JeanPaul du Vinnie]

RG>RX

Just don't get the RX stack. They're not good. Insane amounts of feedback and they don't really get that loud. I wouldn't recommend it for playing in your bedroom, too, because it does have the Randall insane amounts of bass. I used to own it and had complaints from my neighbours on practice volumes.

[ShreddyMcFunTits]

hmm, ive done some more readin up nd i heard that half stacks were way too overrated (whatever that means) nd i guess i need something that is mainly for in my room, but can also play in the church (has to beat the drums nd fill the whole room which is basically a massive gym) ahh what to do ><

Spider III combo, I do believe it should accommodate your needs.

[ESPVIPERCAMO]

get the 100 watt combo , u can gig and do bedroom

[Dick Tater]

Personally with your price range you can get yourself a nice little old tube combo and yes you can use it in a band. A little 50 watt tube combo will pump out enough db for bedroom and band volumes.

I would personally take a look into a Randall RG50TC. Nice little 50 tube watt 1x12" amp. IMHO it's like Marshall with a few shots of steroids. For the price you really can't beat the tones you can get from it. Nice clean tone, to blues, to classic rock, all the way to death/black metal. It's well worth the money.

[soulfly38]

I didnt read the replies, but some of you kids need to learn that a 4x12 halfstack in your bedroom is overkill.

[Dick Tater]

I didnt read the replies, but some of you kids need to learn that a 4x12 halfstack in your bedroom is overkill.

Well you can see the need for one I'm sure...the kid wants one for if he is in a band. In that case he can always buy an attenuator but with his price range you won't get much in the half stack department.

[Mystievel]

so..i just went to guitar center nd tried out some stuff (they didnt have randalls, arrgh, just one used one that only came in clean...it was VERY bassy haha). n e way, i tried that line 6 spider III 150 combo w/e nd it SUCKED! well..it was good but...i turned the bass and treble all the way up nd the middle all the way down and the thing just leik shut off or something so i had to turn it off and on again for it to "work" again. Then i tried a Line 6 HD75 Guitar Amp Head with Spider III 4x12 Cabinet, nd it was pretty nice, i guess.

[Rex Rocker]

the bass and treble all the way up nd the middle all the way down
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anyway...

true, the HD147 is a much better amp than the spider, but it is also like twice as much, is it not?

the Randall RG50T might also be a good idea... it's a Randall and it's tube! :D

[zerosk8r900]

From what I've read, tube amps are about 3 times louds compared to a solid state. Also, the higher end versions of the Vox Valvetronix have a power level knob on the back which regulates your ammount of wattage which is really helpful because you can crank your volume up all the way and still be quiet. Just a couple things to take into consideration.

[Mr Pigwalk]

I didnt read the replies, but some of you kids need to learn that a 4x12 halfstack in your bedroom is overkill.

When you're young, you generally want to play music in a band, and if you hope to someday play in a band, you'd rather half a 1/2 stack in my room ready to roll out to a rehearsal, than a combo. Yes it IS overkill, but when the time comes to put it in use, it's a blessing.

Shit man, when I was younger, I'd see LOTS of guys get into bands just because they actually had gear. Not because they were any good. Just because they had a loud ass amps.

[Mystievel]

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anyway...

true, the HD147 is a much better amp than the spider, but it is also like twice as much, is it not?

the Randall RG50T might also be a good idea... it's a Randall and it's tube! :D

haha why, is it not usual for ppl to do that? i only did it cus I'm used to my acoustic amp nd it only sounds good when i put it at those settings. so i guess now its between a randall, prolly the randall rg200dg3 nd the line 6 w/e spider III half stack, which 1 do u all think is better? thanks again for all the great replies btw.

[Dick Tater]

haha why, is it not usual for ppl to do that? i only did it cus I'm used to my acoustic amp nd it only sounds good when i put it at those settings. so i guess now its between a randall, prolly the randall rg200dg3 nd the line 6 w/e spider III half stack, which 1 do u all think is better? thanks again for all the great replies btw.

Neither...if you are dead set on getting a half stack at least get something that decent. If you want a half stack then safe up for something better.