Kahler Vs. Floyd Rose [Archive] - ESP Guitars Message Board

simonfractal

10-24-2007, 09:07 PM

What's the difference between these two brigdes and wich one is better in your opinion?

kingkobra813

10-25-2007, 09:59 AM

try them out and see. imo i like floyd. just because thats what im used to and thats just what i have played for the last 8 years.

Thrashman

10-25-2007, 11:34 AM

Personal preference.. They're two pretty different animals.. But.. the kahler hybrid is nice indeed.. so is the schaller fr..argh..

Olie_80's_Child

10-25-2007, 12:58 PM

OFR are great proven bridges! Kahlers are great bridges but there are several different models (spyder,2700,2300,3300 etc) so it would be helpful if you could tell us the model you are interested in. In general Kahlers are more complicated to work on and to adjust or to find parts if they get messed up, however, string changes on a kahler 2300 are faster and easier than on a floyd and the pull up range is a lot higher sometime all the way to a perfect fifth!!! the bottom line is that both are great systems and you can't go wrong with either one, just consider some of the points I previously discussed. ;)

ESPManiac

10-25-2007, 01:28 PM

I love Kahler! I swore that i would never get another floyd after i got mine. I have had to set up several floyds since for my friends...and still cannot stand the way that they work. Its just pointless...god damn saddles...

Goooo Kahler!

Gfunk

10-25-2007, 02:53 PM

I love Floyds! I swore that i would never get another Kahler after i got mine. I have had to set up several Kahlers since for my friends...and still cannot stand the way that they work. Its just pointless...god damn bad engineering...

Goooo Floyd!

+ a whole lotto

;)

ESPManiac

10-25-2007, 04:03 PM

maybe you just got a dud :P

I have had nothing but brilliance from my kahler. Never had to do anything to it...and i obliterate the thing at times. It stays in perfect tune.

What exactly what your problem with it?

N3rdAl3rt

10-25-2007, 05:15 PM

floyds are better imo because when u bend hte strings they don't go out of tune like a kahler, kahlers feel different too, they're alot smoother

Olie_80's_Child

10-25-2007, 05:40 PM

floyds are better imo because when u bend hte strings they don't go out of tune like a kahler, kahlers feel different too, they're alot smoother

:confused: What kahler model did you play??? :confused:

ESPManiac

10-25-2007, 08:18 PM

yea seriosly n3rdal3rt...thats the problem i have with Floyds. Kahlers...absolutely none, never had to adjust the springs once!

tmoori

10-25-2007, 11:48 PM

how easy would it be to put a kahler hybrid on an mII with a floyd...is it possible

ESPManiac

10-26-2007, 06:02 AM

Arent the hybrids the shit ones...? Basically a licensed Kahler...?

tmoori

10-26-2007, 09:20 AM

no they are the kahlers that are able to act like a fixed bridge as well.

Metfuk

10-26-2007, 09:29 AM

Aren't kahler guitars way easier to re-string?

Sorry, I have only experience with hard tails.

Olie_80's_Child

10-26-2007, 10:27 AM

how easy would it be to put a kahler hybrid on an mII with a floyd...is it possible

The route is no the same, so you might have to reroute for the Kahler to fit properly.

Olie_80's_Child

10-26-2007, 10:28 AM

Aren't kahler guitars way easier to re-string?

Sorry, I have only experience with hard tails.

To some degree they are! specially the 2300 series.

shredder_shaun

10-31-2007, 07:36 PM

Can you use a floyd nut with a kahler instead of having a regular nut with the kahler nut behind it?

arsiscode

10-31-2007, 07:48 PM

^Yes.

espmetal24782

11-07-2007, 09:34 PM

how easy would it be to put a kahler hybrid on an mII with a floyd...is it possible

yeah, but you need this little plate deal you can get from kahler

2fat2furious

11-08-2007, 12:29 AM

watch this guys videos, he compares jacksons and esp and kahlers and floyds.

ESPManiac

11-08-2007, 06:13 AM

Which "guys" video?

Iceman

11-08-2007, 04:23 PM

Which "guys" video?

I think he's referring to this guy's videos;

http://youtube.com/user/dmometalguitar

Anywho, as an owner of guitars equipped with both Kahler and Floyd Rose bridges, I can safely say that I prefer the Kahler by far. I use a 7200 Hybrid, and it does go out of tune slightly with string bending (my FR does not), but that's the only advantage of the Floyd, IMO. Besides, all you have to do is dive, then jerk the bar back up, and it's perfectly in tune again. My Hybrid equipped IC400 beats my OFR equipped BC Rich hands down.

D-EJ915

11-08-2007, 04:27 PM

Kahlers are smoother than floyds but feel totally different. Really one of the things were you have to try them out. Kind of a middle ground is the Ibanez ZR trem but of course you can only get those on their S series.

2fat2furious

11-08-2007, 05:38 PM

:x
How the hell did I forget to put the link in there????!!! Fuck I'm retarded...
yeah Iceman, thats who I was talking about

n3o_samura1

08-23-2009, 12:14 PM

I just got a Custom Shop Hanneman w/ Eagles. It has the Kahler 2315 on it. It couldn't stay in tune to save it's life. It seems to be nicely build, so I have to assume it's something wrong with the setup. It goes out of tune even if I'm just chording. Then it falls atleast 1/4 a step out of tune if I bend. Try the dive and pull up, and it only corrects it ever so slightly but it's still horribly out of tune.

If anyone has any advice for me, PM me. It would be much appreciated. I only got this Hanney because I'm a devout Floyd player, but I wanted to try something new out and have a little variety in my arsenal. I'm hoping someone can shed some light on my problems.

sk3tch3dx

08-23-2009, 04:24 PM

what a failed 1st post diggin shit up 2 years old

Bro KV

08-23-2009, 05:36 PM

Kahler fixed bridges FTW!!

n3o_samura1

08-23-2009, 07:17 PM

what a failed 1st post diggin shit up 2 years old
Eh. Just thought it'd be better than spamming the board with a copy thread. I unfortunately forgot to read the post date after using the search function. I guess if all the tech support forum offers is smartass comments, then I'll seek help elsewhere. I won't be receiving the help I need here. :\

ozzuk1

08-24-2009, 06:46 AM

I did used to know of a site that had a great setup guide for Kahlers, like any bridge to perform at their optimum they need to be setup properly..

eddietorres666

08-24-2009, 11:38 AM

I just got a Custom Shop Hanneman w/ Eagles. It has the Kahler 2315 on it. It couldn't stay in tune to save it's life. It seems to be nicely build, so I have to assume it's something wrong with the setup. It goes out of tune even if I'm just chording. Then it falls atleast 1/4 a step out of tune if I bend. Try the dive and pull up, and it only corrects it ever so slightly but it's still horribly out of tune.

If anyone has any advice for me, PM me. It would be much appreciated. I only got this Hanney because I'm a devout Floyd player, but I wanted to try something new out and have a little variety in my arsenal. I'm hoping someone can shed some light on my problems.

Kahler advise is : change return springs ( every three years ).
If yours is from 06 or 07 that should be it.