Bolt on to custom? [Archive] - ESP Guitars Message Board

ViperCustom

10-09-2007, 10:17 AM

KH Guitar Freak

10-09-2007, 10:41 AM

Not that I know of, no...

AsherTKK

10-09-2007, 10:43 AM

Hi im new to the boards and decided to join toi ask a question about turning a regular bolton into a setneck or neckthrough guitar. can you glue the neck in and then sand it smooth and repaint it so it would be the same as a setneck construction wise but look like a neckthrough? I like viper customs as you can tell by my name and would like to turn my 50 into more of a custom thing. Dont laugh i cant afford a custom lol . Tlanks for any help it is appreciated

VC

its near impossible to do that... firstly the bolt on pocket of the 50 you have isnt deep enuf... the string tension would pull apart the two pieces of wood...

why dont you just save up and get a set neck ltd viper?

ViperCustom

10-09-2007, 11:39 AM

Dude i have no $$$$$$$$$$$

if you leave the bolts in but then smooth it all over with some bondo or something would that work okay?

chevy Z 302

10-09-2007, 12:30 PM

no, absolutly not. :|

take your viper 50 and save money untill you can get something better. Dont waste anymore on a cheap-o ltd.

metallist

10-09-2007, 01:06 PM

Hmm, it shudnt be totally impossible, you could just cut out your neck pocket and continue it to where the pick up is, then u wud have to sort of glue (not fucking super glue, real epoxy or wood glue in such a way as to seep into both pieces of wood) an extra bit to ur neck, so as to etend it to the necesary level. then set the neck in. I really dont recommend this though.

It can be done, its just not worth it and it very like to slip out.

if u want it to have the appearance of a set neck, you could remove the plate, get smaller screws drillem in deeper so their heads are in the wood, then cover it up with filler and sort of form the filler into the shape of the neck joint. This idea would be more durable, easier and cheaper than the first, but if u dont get it rite (for both ideas) it can turn out really crap looking.

Your better off buying a set neck, trust us, high end LTDs FTW

ESPManiac

10-09-2007, 01:28 PM

Yea, it could be done. But not with jst a standard Viper 50. If you were to enlarge the pocket that the neck sits into (essentially make it much longer, similar to a set-thru) you could glue the neck down further, and make the join strong enough to take it. But, then you would need to get a new neck...

So Basically, if you wanted to make your guitar look more "Custom" you could shave the heel of the bolt on joint and still keep the screws. Do remember that you want a larger amount of wood to get a beter transfer of sound. But, for a Viper50 i dont think it will matter much. So, basically you could turn it into an Ibanez style bolt on joint, and have the screws recessed into the body.

Espgianni

10-09-2007, 05:19 PM

how old are some of the members on this bored......is this guy 13, with a question like that:rolleyes:

ViperCustom

10-09-2007, 05:26 PM

how old are some of the members on this bored......is this guy 13, with a question like that:rolleyes:

Who cares how old I am? Also, you misspelled board.

smashandgrab1forme

10-09-2007, 05:36 PM

Yes mate you can do that, glue the neck in the pocket then screw it down without the plate, you might want to use slightly shorter screws, though as you can counter-sink them in and putty over that as well to completly hide everything. Then you could use a car putty to fill in the joints and smooth off and repaint it. I did it years ago to my first electric guitar, it was my modding guitar I did everything to it. It came out alright to, just be sure to smooth it off well and you should get a top job.

emg32

10-09-2007, 11:56 PM

Why would you want to do that anyway? Do you not like the bolt on heel or are you just wanting it to look like a set neck or neck through guitar?

It's all personal preference but there are alot of people that order Customs with bolt-on necks. Alot of the best shredders in the world use bolt-on guitars.

I would personally sell yours and get a cheap set neck or neck through guitar before I would try to mod your bolt-on. Of course it's your guitar, do what you want.

KFW

10-10-2007, 01:09 AM

I may be judging, but I think I'm right.

Don't even try it. You WILL fuck it up. It doesn't seem like you have a lot of experience. If you try it, you'll ruin it and have to get a new guitar. Plus, even if you did succeed, there would be virtually no benefit whatsoever. Just save up for a new guitar.

Thrashman

10-10-2007, 08:09 AM

Even if he did route it for making it set/set through, the neck would have to be replaced with a longer one. supershort scale ftw, though? not.

smashandgrab1forme

10-10-2007, 08:13 AM

Just glue it down, screw it in to place, then fill it

Bouncepogo

10-10-2007, 09:06 AM

i almost want him to attempt it, just in repayment for the shitty thread

Microdomus

10-10-2007, 10:07 AM

Dude i have no $$$$$$$$$$$

^^Patience! Save up some money man!

ViperCustom

10-10-2007, 10:39 AM

i almost want him to attempt it, just in repayment for the shitty thread

Your undername says it all. everyone knows theres never any chance of shredding with a pos bolton guitar? whe uses a fucking bolton anyway? Fag.

Rhymenocerous

10-10-2007, 11:17 AM

Your undername says it all. everyone knows theres never any chance of shredding with a pos bolton guitar? whe uses a fucking bolton anyway? Fag.

:rollin

I'm not even gonna go there.

Sidivan

10-10-2007, 11:33 AM

Your undername says it all. everyone knows theres never any chance of shredding with a pos bolton guitar? whe uses a fucking bolton anyway? Fag.

I know at least 1 person that would disagree with you.

http://www.rocknheavy.net/satriani/band.jpg

Microdomus

10-10-2007, 11:57 AM

Your undername says it all. everyone knows theres never any chance of shredding with a pos bolton guitar? whe uses a fucking bolton anyway? Fag.

^^Serious??? What about John Petrucci? Steve Vai? ^^Satriani?

Rethink your position child...rethink!

ShreddyMcFunTits

10-10-2007, 12:18 PM

Hi im new to the boards and decided to join toi ask a question about turning a regular bolton into a setneck or neckthrough guitar. can you glue the neck in and then sand it smooth and repaint it so it would be the same as a setneck construction wise but look like a neckthrough? I like viper customs as you can tell by my name and would like to turn my 50 into more of a custom thing. Dont laugh i cant afford a custom lol . Tlanks for any help it is appreciated

VC

Hi I'm not new to the board and decided to tell you to that no it can't be done and if it could it would still be as shit as it is at the moment.

SMFT

SGCustom

10-10-2007, 01:00 PM

Poor ViperPlayer.

Even in your second form, your still a fat pussy.

ViperCustom

10-10-2007, 01:33 PM

Poor ViperPlayer.

Even in your second form, your still a fat pussy.

Whats wrong with playing a viper? all i know is:

bolton < setneck < setthru < neckthru

Some picture of some bald guy makes me want a crappy bolton? Fuck. I have a bolton and i know there crap.

chevy Z 302

10-10-2007, 01:38 PM

damn, in that case we all retract what we said. I mean hell we've got to realize a dumbass 13 year old with piss poor grammar and a (lack of) experience with high end instruments is correct.

ViperCustom

10-10-2007, 01:45 PM

damn, in that case we all retract what we said. I mean hell we've got to realize a dumbass 13 year old with piss poor grammar and a (lack of) experience with high end instruments is correct.

Thank you. By the way, 302 is a Ford Motor. :p

Thrash

10-10-2007, 02:05 PM

Your undername says it all. everyone knows theres never any chance of shredding with a pos bolton guitar? whe uses a fucking bolton anyway? Fag.

Thats just... :o

Gfunk

10-10-2007, 02:49 PM

Man, you donkeys are easy.

:lol

ESPManiac

10-10-2007, 03:02 PM

Where to start. You are just wrong in about every way. The only reason that some bolt-on joints are poor is because the pocket for the neck in the body is too large for the neck. So, it is free to wiggle around. Once the bolts are in, it will stay in place...but will not transfer the sound well.

I know many people who swear by bolt on joints. Companies such as Tom Anderson, Suhr, Pensa, and many other quality hand made guitars have an amazingly tight pocket for the neck. Thus, have a much better transfer of tone and sound.

As for people who dont shred on bolt on guitars. That bald man is Joe Satriani... a brilliant musician. Regardless, you will find that Rusty Cooley plays several bolt-on guitars. He can shred like nuts! Chris Broderick and Jeff Loomis both play only bolt-ons. Steve Vai, bolt on! Yngwei Malmsteeeen, BOLT ON! Guthrie Govan, BOLT ON! I dont know who you listen to, but if you check loads of people use bolt-ons.

ViperCustom

10-10-2007, 03:10 PM

Microdomus

10-10-2007, 03:12 PM

^^He`s so damn right!!! and not only that...he`s funny!:rollin

ESPManiac

10-10-2007, 03:13 PM

Also, what was your reason for thinking that neck-thru is the best? I assume, because you mentioned shredding...it is because of the easier upper fret access. If so, wrap your head around these neck-thru joints!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/espmaniac/DSC01155.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/espmaniac/DSC01140.jpg

ESPManiac

10-10-2007, 03:14 PM

loads of people suck cock, too. it doesnt make it right
bolt on = teh worst neck joint, end of story

Logic? Personally, i own all neck-thru guitars...but, i am still open to a high-end bolt on

ESPointer

10-10-2007, 03:56 PM

concrapulations Viper! you made my ignore list!

ViperCustom

10-10-2007, 04:31 PM

concrapulations Viper! you made my ignore list!

You're awesome!

ESPManiac

10-10-2007, 04:36 PM

Still seeking your insightful comments!

Justinschut

10-10-2007, 04:59 PM

Whats wrong with playing a viper? all i know is:

bolton < setneck < setthru < neckthru

Some picture of some bald guy makes me want a crappy bolton? Fuck. I have a bolton and i know there crap.

:rollin

ViperCustom

10-10-2007, 05:22 PM

I just like a neckthru better! if they werent better then why would the customs be neckthru and the lowends bolt on? Hey espmaniac what kinds of guitars are those? I likey the 5? piece neck

AsherTKK

10-10-2007, 05:34 PM

I just like a neckthru better! if they werent better then why would the customs be neckthru and the lowends bolt on? Hey espmaniac what kinds of guitars are those? I likey the 5? piece neck

ahh... now prefering a neck thru to a bolt on doesn't make the bolt on any less awesome... you seriously need to wake up yr ideas mate, and forcing yr OPINION on a PUBLIC forum, not very nice... everyone has his or her opinions, like for instance you like neck thru and hate bolt ons, and i like both neck-thrus and bolt ons and i hate set necks.

yr referring to ltds... look at the ESP original series... M-II, George Lynch models, Kh-2 i could go on and on... dont just look at LTDs... they cater more to ppl more budget conscious... (like me)

you obviously havent tried an ibanez js1000, a caparison dellinger 7, a jackson phil collen, and ibanez jpm100 and many many more great bolt on guitars too numerous to mention unless you wanted another mock-up thread...

seriously mate... we hate enuf ppl on this board... we dont need another one

mushman

10-10-2007, 05:37 PM

:rollin:rollin:rollin

chevy Z 302

10-10-2007, 05:42 PM

302 is a Ford Motor
:rollin

Rhymenocerous

10-10-2007, 06:25 PM

http://www.drumcityguitarland.com/drumcitygl/stores/1/Fender-Custom-Shop--C16.aspx

Very low-end bolt-ons. Very.

ESPNAZI

10-10-2007, 08:16 PM

First of all bolt ons are the shit,
I like them both neck trough and bolt on.

By the way i'll sell my m-200fm for $300.

KH Guitar Freak

10-10-2007, 10:06 PM

This thread made me LOL!!!

Stephy

10-10-2007, 10:22 PM

wow... thats all I have to say about this.

I just hope to the gods that this guy is joking. If he's not... I wanna be the first to slap him.

all this coming from a girl who can't even play the guitar, but owns lots! :)

MikeC

10-10-2007, 11:36 PM

I see people doing it. You can do it, but its alot of sanding!

smashandgrab1forme

10-11-2007, 12:04 AM

Dude, if you had just asked your question, and taken on board the responses you liked, and just kept your trap shut, things would be good. Now I'm afraid you have shot yourself in the foot. Some guys on hear have some really helpful advice and can really help you, and vice versa you could have helped some people out as well. Now you are a douche.

MikeC

10-11-2007, 01:16 AM

smashandgrab1forme

10-11-2007, 01:20 AM

Did you start this thread??? NO

MikeC

10-11-2007, 01:23 AM

Just a question, no need to get defensive on the internet:p

AsherTKK

10-11-2007, 02:26 AM

What that post directed towards me?:\

why are YOU feeling the heat?

intent?

Stephy

10-11-2007, 02:35 AM

yeah, if you want a neck thru save your money and get a neck thru. I don't see the purpose of fucking up a lower end guitar just to make it look "custom".

Thats so lame.

smashandgrab1forme

10-11-2007, 03:06 AM

Nah, it will be good for him I think, when I got my first electric, I did everything to make it look like Kirk's, I was 12 and I knew fuck all about everything, but I was modding and tinkering around with it, I loved it, I still have it today, and it is totally unique.

Stephy

10-11-2007, 03:08 AM

does it still sound decent?

I mean, if he wants to do it for nostalgia purposes and to keep it forever, then yeah.. go for it.

But if he's worried about re-sale value, thats another story.

smashandgrab1forme

10-11-2007, 03:10 AM

It rocks!!! It was a 150 buck guitar, I reshaped the head stock to look like kirks. It's great.

Stephy

10-11-2007, 03:12 AM

ha! thats awesome!

ESPManiac

10-11-2007, 08:31 AM

I just like a neckthru better! if they werent better then why would the customs be neckthru and the lowends bolt on?

I like neck-thru more aswell, but for specific things! Personally, i believe that a neck-thru joint sounds warmer, while a bolt-on has a certain punchy-ness to it. Which for shred, you should like. Just because most of the ESP Custom Series are neck-thru, that has nothing to do with the specific quality. Come to think of it, i can think of more really high-end guitars that are not neck-thru than ones which are.

Hey espmaniac what kinds of guitars are those? I likey the 5? piece neck
And those guitars...i made those guitars. 5 Piece neck, mmmmhmm. Those guitars sound like sex!

Kgry

10-11-2007, 09:52 AM

Is this seriously Viper187 reborn and asking the same dumb questions?

ViperCustom

10-11-2007, 10:42 AM

Is this seriously Viper187 reborn and asking the same dumb questions?

What? I dont think it was a dumb question i am not anyone reborn

asbloodrunsblack

10-11-2007, 01:37 PM

"whe uses a fucking bolton anyway? Fag."

you're so fucking dumb , steve vai , paul gilbert , joe satriani , JOHN PETRUCCI , - some of the best shredders in the world , and they ALL use bolt ons .

BloodJunkie

10-11-2007, 02:45 PM

this dude is more retarded than viper ever was

MikeC

10-11-2007, 09:24 PM

why are YOU feeling the heat?

intent?

No reason I guess. I just thought that his post was pointed towards my previous post. I guess if it was directed to me then he would have quoted what I said. Sorry, my mistake:\

B1ackD3at4

10-11-2007, 09:51 PM

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

ViperCustom

10-12-2007, 08:18 AM

AsherTKK

10-12-2007, 12:27 PM

BloodJunkie

10-12-2007, 04:06 PM

so your gonna totally fuck up your guitar and then sell it for over 1,000 to get a viper standard.

good luck, fuckin retard
:rollin

strngthbyndstrngth

10-12-2007, 04:21 PM

Thank you. By the way, 302 is a Ford Motor. :p

This had been a very funny thread...My advice to Viper custom is.....don't do it, you will ruin your guitar.

And about your "302 is a Ford Motor" comment...do some research...the 1st 3 years of the Chevy Camaro Z-28 (1967-1969) had a zz302 motor, genius.

metalhobo

10-12-2007, 06:22 PM

i'm going to do this and put some emg's in it and probably sell it for enough $$ to buy my own custom, or at least a standard viper. :evil

:rollin:rollin:rollin8o8o:rollin:rollin

Stephy

10-12-2007, 07:00 PM

Thanks to those trying to help, the rest of you guys are all fucked in the head. i'm going to do this and put some emg's in it and probably sell it for enough $$ to buy my own custom, or at least a standard viper. :evil

wow... this guy just made my day. I don't even know how to play guitar but I own enough of them and know enough about them to know thats gonna royally fuck up a perfectly good guitar.

If you actually sell that guitar for enough money to purchase a custom, I will totally eat my words... but that just seems extremely ridiculous. Actually, if you sell that guitar for enough money to purchase a custom, I want to talk to that person who bought it and tell him he's a retarded assclown!

lmfao @ the emg comment too.... cuz teh emgorzzzz make everything better :p

ViperCustom

10-12-2007, 08:39 PM

This had been a very funny thread...My advice to Viper custom is.....don't do it, you will ruin your guitar.

And about your "302 is a Ford Motor" comment...do some research...the 1st 3 years of the Chevy Camaro Z-28 (1967-1969) had a zz302 motor, genius.

Did you not notice the :p ?

Riff Master Mike

10-13-2007, 07:08 AM

Dude, seriously, you're just going to ruin your guitar. It isn't going to work, even if you just putty up the thing and sand it down, it's going to look like ass and you won't get shit for it. I mean, you can't get shit for an all original mint 50, let alone one that was a noob science project.
Don't do it!

mushman

10-13-2007, 07:41 AM

I say give it a shot.It can't be that hard to do,and don't forget to post pics.
Here's a pic of a home made scallop job,not mine by the way.
It may not look so pretty,but it works.
Scalloped neck=extra cash.Give it a try too.

Stephy

10-13-2007, 08:23 AM

are you shitting me???? Do you really think thats okay???

Justinschut

10-13-2007, 10:46 AM

This had been a very funny thread...My advice to Viper custom is.....DO IT, you will ruin your guitar.

Fixed :D

asbloodrunsblack

10-13-2007, 11:33 AM

"Thanks to those trying to help, the rest of you guys are all fucked in the head. i'm going to do this and put some emg's in it and probably sell it for enough $$ to buy my own custom, or at least a standard viper. "

good luck , retard

BlackWidowESP

10-13-2007, 05:45 PM

Your undername says it all. everyone knows theres never any chance of shredding with a pos bolton guitar? whe uses a fucking bolton anyway? Fag.
:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Y2SldFD2Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKKbT3zyqtw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35ft52fOiGQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_lwocmL9dQ

Need I say more silly nooblet?

metalhobo

10-13-2007, 06:06 PM

^ Kirk with an Ibanez? (second video)

maxdgad

10-13-2007, 09:58 PM

Just my two cents...there's a company called Caparison that could shit a better bolt-on than any neck-through you could ever think you could buy.

By the way...neck joint doesn't determine the guitar quality or the player's skill. Having the most expensive guitar in the world won't make up for any lack of skill, and by the looks of it (and your choice of equipment and upgrade options) you haven't been playing long enough to know what the hell you want out of a guitar.

It'd be best that you practice until you get good at playing a bolt-on, then move to neck through when you have enough skills to really utilize the smoother upper-fret access.

KH Guitar Freak

10-14-2007, 03:04 AM

There's plenty of companies that make good bolt on guitars...

"Neck thru>bolt on" is a myth...

mushman

10-14-2007, 07:49 AM

Steve Vai doesn't count.He plays a neck thru that looks like a bolt on.

Thrashman

10-14-2007, 08:04 AM

@Max, hence why they made the new T&T's? :lol nah, they make some of the world's best guitars IMO, i often play my friend's caparison, wich is one of the killswitch engage's old custom's... though i guess the custom part is why its so good :| anyways, its only a matter of personal preference, neckthrough, bolt on...w/e, i dont like bold on heels so im all for setthgough or neckthrough.

KH Guitar Freak

10-14-2007, 08:21 AM

Steve Vai doesn't count.He plays a neck thru that looks like a bolt on.

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guitarsatbmusic

10-14-2007, 09:53 PM

though i guess the custom part is why its so good
All the same mate. I have two artist's old Caparison guitars, same construction, same materials, same builders, everything.

Thrashman

10-15-2007, 01:56 AM

If you say so :p interesting information..

ViperCustom

10-15-2007, 12:48 PM

Whatever. i was wondering if it will work i'm going to give it a shot, then youll see. imagine if people had told neil armstrong he was a stupid noob when he had an idea that we should go to the moon? Fucking ****s(not all of you, but you know who you arew)

jet66

10-15-2007, 01:52 PM

when he had an idea that we should go to the moon
Just don't forget what happened with that first Apollo, though.

Viper Custom = Gus Grissom.

:|

Was that too soon? It's too soon. Sorry.

ViperCustom

10-15-2007, 02:38 PM

i guess we'll see after i'm converting everyones crappy boltons into neckthrus for them, if i screw up 1 guitar to practice then its worth it.

Thrashman

10-15-2007, 02:47 PM

:lol happy scrapping!

Justinschut

10-15-2007, 03:20 PM

please post pics of the process

BloodJunkie

10-15-2007, 04:40 PM

^+1

B1ackD3at4

10-15-2007, 05:00 PM

i guess we'll see after i'm converting everyones crappy boltons into neckthrus for them, if i screw up 1 guitar to practice then its worth it.

Just make sure you never come near my bolt on, I happen to like it the way it is.

Thanks to those trying to help, the rest of you guys are all fucked in the head. i'm going to do this and put some emg's in it and probably sell it for enough $$ to buy my own custom, or at least a standard viper. :evil

If you sell it for anywhere near that much send em my way, I have this awesome guitar I'm trying to sell from this amazing brand, First Act, plays like a dream, and in mint condition too.

Stephy

10-17-2007, 01:55 AM

"One step for man.... giant leap for mankind"

... you freak!

Sidivan

10-21-2007, 09:51 AM

Wait... it was Neil Armstrong's idea to go to the moon?

Holy crap kid. Lie down before you hurt yourself... or your guitar.

JeanPaul du Vinnie

10-21-2007, 02:36 PM

CrugerD

10-21-2007, 03:00 PM

:lol the name says it all, viperplayer your title has been reclaimed.
ViperCustom = entry-level

MikeC

10-22-2007, 01:45 AM

So did he go ahead and try converting the neck to a set neck yet?

Listen ViperPlayer, I was behind you at first because I know it can be done. I've seen it done on guitars before, but I'm still having trouble remember were. You thinking that your going to sell the guitar for enough cash to buy a custom or even a standard is just plain foolish. If you decided to make it a set neck then it would have basically NO resale value at all. You wouldn't get half of what the thing's worth right now. Your just wasting your time and you'll soon be dissapointed when you come to find out you put all your time putting together fire wood. Not to mention the fact that you'll probably sell it to somebody who dosn't know what they're really buying until there damn neck comes off or something.
I want to see pictures also. Atleast with pictures you can look at them later to see how stupid it was of you to think such things.

MikeC

10-22-2007, 01:47 AM

So did he go ahead and try converting the neck to a set neck yet?

Listen ViperPlayer, I was behind you at first because I know it can be done. I've seen it done on guitars before, but I'm still having trouble remember were. You thinking that your going to sell the guitar for enough cash to buy a custom or even a standard is just plain foolish. If you decided to make it a set neck then it would have basically NO resale value at all. You wouldn't get half of what the thing's worth right now. Your just wasting your time and you'll soon be dissapointed when you come to find out you put all your time putting together fire wood. Not to mention the fact that you'll probably sell it to somebody who dosn't know what they're really buying until there damn neck comes off or something. :\
I want to see pictures also. Atleast with pictures you can look at them later to see how stupid it was of you to think such things.:lol

Petruccis_Son

10-22-2007, 06:19 AM

if they werent better then why would the customs be neckthru and the lowends bolt on?

the highest end companies use bolt on as a standard construction method because 9 times out of 10 they sound and resonate better when done correctly. as maniac said, suhr, tyler, tom anderson, to name a few

an esp custom is by no means the end, its just the start of good quality.

so get your facts straight you jumped up little **** hair

ßeckerƒan

10-22-2007, 06:29 AM

i guess we'll see after i'm converting everyones crappy boltons into neckthrus for them, if i screw up 1 guitar to practice then its worth it.
err no, but you could turn my neckthru into an awsome Bolt-on if you want.

boltons >neckthru

___KC___

10-25-2007, 05:30 PM

if they werent better then why would the customs be neckthru and the lowends bolt on?

usually manufacturers use bolt on neck joints on lower end guitars because its easier to do and it costs less.

Liromyc

10-26-2007, 04:59 AM

Why is it easier to do? Have you built one yourself?

Last time I looked even low-end LTDs had thru-neck models too.

Jafis

10-26-2007, 06:18 AM

Another thread like this and Dave will have to rename this part of the forum.

Sidivan

10-26-2007, 11:10 AM

Why is it easier to do? Have you built one yourself?

Yes I have built one, but I've never built a neck-thru. I can't imagine it would be more or less difficult, just different. The focus on a bolt-on is routing the cavity, where as the focus on a neck-thru would be in building the neck with a huge tongue. Personally, I think bolt-ons would be easier (make a jig from the neck, change router bit, route out neck cavity, done). Whereas Neck-Thru, you have to actually build the neck with a long tongue (which I would imagine is a little tougher) plus you have to cut your wings to match perfectly, then glue them on.

Stephy

10-26-2007, 06:31 PM

this horribly ridiculous thread is still going on????

Kgry

10-27-2007, 01:57 AM

It's so ridiculous it has to keep going.

Stephy

10-27-2007, 02:45 AM

I like how people are instructing him on how to do it.

Like its a good idea or something.

jet66

10-27-2007, 07:42 AM

I think it is a fucking awesome idea. He shouldn't wait for advice, or even measure shit. Just go for it. Too much planning and getting advice from people is highly overrated. If you think you can do something, just do it. It doesn't matter if there are people with rational advice against it. They are just haters.

Legato Mutato

10-27-2007, 09:52 AM

Screw the haterzzz!!! Do it!!!!!

Aladdinsane75

10-27-2007, 10:55 AM

The guy comparing himself to Neal Armstrong made me laugh my ass off. That is what you call epic delusion.

AsherTKK

10-28-2007, 08:40 AM

epic delusion.

hahahahahahaha

nice one

zigabric

10-29-2007, 10:40 AM

I am too lazy to read 6 pages for this shit but ViperCustom if you like neckthrus and set necks so much, then go to the store and buy one. If you dont have the money then save some. If you cant save enough, then you are a retard.

Thrashman

10-29-2007, 11:20 AM

..or has no job.

AsherTKK

10-29-2007, 06:46 PM

...because he's 12

Metalmilitia306

10-29-2007, 11:17 PM

wow i just read all 6 pages of this thread. and can i say HAHAHA

PT ESP

10-30-2007, 01:04 AM

wow i just read all 6 pages of this thread. and can i say HAHAHA

+1... oh man. The ESP forum has always, since 1999, been a great place for a good laugh! :lol

ViperCustom, take or leave anything you've been told. Nothing wrong with having dreams and aspirations... but why oh why do you need the unreasonably aggressive responses? You're not the only one of course.
Good luck anyways dude, do post pics if it works out.

Justinschut

10-30-2007, 02:46 PM

Im more interested in the pics of it not working out :p

Donting101

11-30-2007, 12:31 PM

i guess we'll see after i'm converting everyones crappy boltons into neckthrus for them

yes please convert my crappy bolt on jackson sam dimas customshop and tom anderson cobra for me. make them playable... then maybe they'll sound good, FINALLY!

ßeckerƒan

11-30-2007, 12:42 PM

post progress pics please.

ZeroEyeZero

11-30-2007, 12:47 PM

yes please convert my crappy bolt on jackson sam dimas customshop and tom anderson cobra for me. make them playable... then maybe they'll sound good, FINALLY!

Yeah right, like those crap guitars could ever sound good! They are bolt ons, you know! I wouldn't even spend the money on bondo to fix those. Maybe a tube of crazy glue...maybe.

:p

Im more interested in the pics of it not working out

+1

Donting101

12-05-2007, 06:24 AM

:lol

Im more interested in the pics of it not working out+1 count me in too

Sidivan

12-05-2007, 10:44 AM

I really want to see how this is turning out.

Donting101

12-07-2007, 01:15 PM

i'm sure the boy has killed himself by now

jet66

12-07-2007, 01:23 PM

I know you are only joking about doing that to your baby blue San Dimas, but just know this: If you ever did something like that to it, I would commit every penny I had and every fiber of my being in to hunting you down and killing you.

Oh yeah...

:D

Legato Mutato

12-07-2007, 06:31 PM

I think he got banned.

AsherTKK

12-07-2007, 06:31 PM

you hunt and kill him... i'll take his guitars:cool:

jet66

12-08-2007, 04:15 AM

You can have everything except that baby blue San Dimas. As you see, I'd literally kill for it. Twice, if necessary.

thislegendforever

12-08-2007, 09:27 AM

I just thought I'd add that I love Caparison guitars haha

themisfit138

12-15-2007, 03:19 PM

Thank you. By the way, 302 is a Ford Motor. :p
a 302 is the best Chevy motor beside the 409

chevy Z 302

12-16-2007, 07:19 PM

you've never even seen a dz302™

dethdefier

12-19-2007, 04:05 PM

I don't think that sounds that hard to do.

gothicpheonix

02-14-2008, 08:48 PM

ok i just thought id give my 2 cents as i have moded almost every guitar ive ever owned and many others for people at a small fee.

I certainly think it is a possible thing to do in the right hands. I would try as many have already said and mod it to an ibanez style heal then glue in place to get better join as loss of wood in heal will lose what little tone there is. also i would add some kind of small countersunk washers to the shorter screws for larger grip. after that fill and sand, possibly add finish.

I MUST ADD THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I WOULD RECOMMEND ESPECIALLY IF THIS IS YOUR ONLY GUITAR AND IF IT GOES WRONG YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CASH TO REPLACE IT

metsabbatallica

02-15-2008, 04:07 AM

I agree - http://www.jimfogarty.co.uk/Merry%20Dancers%20Page.htm

This is a guy who took a cort and made it as customised as possible .

Not for those who dont know what they are doing.

I cannot understand peoples comments against modifying a guitar this is how firstly ESP was created .It is personal preference, if you like boltons good but if those with one want the guitar they have to be modified to have the feel of a set or thru no one should say NO it doesn’t effect you.

It’s just like if I want to put humbuckers in one of my fender style guitars and they don’t want SD jb jnrs or hot rails as I have done for other people. I don’t go oh no its supposed to have single coils, I bust out the router and template and put humbuckers in.

It’s all personnel preference.

( I am in no way advocating his idiotic statements)

Racerx881

03-20-2008, 05:32 PM

Quote:
Your undername says it all. everyone knows theres never any chance of shredding with a pos bolton guitar? whe uses a fucking bolton anyway? Fag. /end quote

lol, this is what Viperplayer81 said in his first thread here when he came to the boards. This is just a troll who knows his history.

Just an FYI, that quote is almost verbatim.